Privacy 10 years ago and today

[yesthattom]

Ten years ago: Caller ID? Hell no! I’m gonna get it blocked! This is a total invasion of privacy!

Today: I refuse to order pizza delivery from that place until they get a caller-id system so I don’t have to repeat my address to them every time I call in an order.

The sad part is that we now go to the “not as good food, but they use my caller-id bits” place instead of the “great food, takes forever to place my order because they don’t have a CRM system that uses caller-id”.

Comments

[docstrange.livejournal.com]

Funny, but so true. I wonder what David Brin would have to say about that.

[la-directora.livejournal.com]

The sad part is that we now go to the “not as good food, but they use my caller-id bits” place instead of the “great food, takes forever to place my order because they don’t have a CRM system that uses caller-id”.

Wow, seriously? Man, I'd much rather have the better food than be saved the trouble of giving them my address. Heck, in my little neighborhood here in Brooklyn, only a couple of the places around here in take credit cards, much less are technologically advanced enough for an ordering system that takes caller ID info. Now, the little dinner knows my address because they keep a handwritten list of "frequent customers". But that's as good as it gets.

I guess when it comes to food, getting the best, highest quality food is always my priority over the rest.

[yesthattom.livejournal.com]

Well for the most part pizza is pizza around here. It's an Italian neighborhood and everything is pretty high quality.

Now Chinese food is a different matter. None of them use caller-id and the better ones can't hear us well. Indian is even worse... we drive to pick it up because they can't understand our street name even when we spell it.

[yesthattom.livejournal.com]

You're also lucky enough to live in a place where www.seamlessweb.com exists. That solves the UI problem.

[la-directora.livejournal.com]

It exists, but mostly just for places in Manhattan. At home, it's all the small neighborhood, low-tech options. Which, again, I don't mind because of the quality of the food.

I'm not a Luddite by any means. But sometimes doing things the "old fashioned" way is fine with me, when the return for that is getting to patronize small, neighborhood establishments. I don't mind that at all.

[dannyman.livejournal.com]

Yeah, first time the guy knew what we were inclined to order I was kinda freaked out, then realized that really, thats just damned cool.

For myself . . . I LIKE that my house phone has neither caller ID nor answering service. If you call, I'll answer if I'm home and I might wanna talk, so go ahead and call, because, like, you wont be interrupting me from something like driving . . . old-school!

address?

[chrisla.livejournal.com]

Hah, my old favorite place before I moved a while back:

"Hello sir, your regular pizza?"
"Yes."
"The same credit card as last time?"
"Yes."
"Your pizza will arrive in 30 minutes."

I sort of miss that place, that was damned handy if not creepy.

[rainbear.livejournal.com]

Heh. My dad had caller ID blocked on all phones in the house.

Then--he wouldn't accept any blocked caller ID calls to the house.

*headdesk*

That was among the first things I fixed when I took over the accounts. lol!

[catness.livejournal.com]

Huh. I never felt that caller ID was an invasion of privacy. But then, I always knew how to get phone records from the phone company if I wanted them, since childhood, so "who called" never seemed like a secret anyway.

Also, my grandmother did physical switchboard work and taught me how, so I figured everybody always knew who called whom. I miss those quarter inch jack cables. That was cool stuff.

As to your actual point, though... I don't think I usually change my opinion like that, even across a decade. Internally inconsistent.

[gravitrue.livejournal.com]

But step switches and crossbars didn't keep any records for calls inside of the switch... I think I still have a butt set with quarter-inch jacks and a rotary dial, but suspect I ditched the patch panels... within the last eight years or so I heard tell that some hotels and other small establishments in India were still using U.S. plugboard systems...

[dossy.livejournal.com]

Today: I don't want companies collecting my shopping preferences! This is a total invasion of privacy!

Ten years from now: I refuse to shop at a place that doesn't already know what I want ahead of time based on my past shopping experiences! I don't want to have to wait in line: I want it delivered to my living compartment in near-realtime as I want and need it!

Brave. New. World.

[awfief.livejournal.com]

Yes! Great comment.

[whitebird.livejournal.com]

I've been getting pizza from the same place for more than 12 years now. They know my voice and where I live, but I (and they) always verbally confirm address. I'll always go for quality over convenience any day. Besides, they're likely the only pizza place in town that will put capers on.

[mangosteen]

Why are you sad that humans have revised their threat model and are now able to calculate the risk of caller-id information accurately?

[mhalligan.livejournal.com]

To me, caller-ID has always just been a feature of convenience. I only pick up the telephone if I recognize the caller. Those who know me know that they need a reason to call me, and wouldn't call me with blocked caller-ID, because I won't pick it up. This is equally as true for my work telephone #s. The government's Do Not Call list is pretty much worthless, and I've found that this was the only way to keep me from hating telephony altogether.

Of course, there's always the joker running asterisk who likes to spoof their Caller ID..

[drwex]

I still block outbound Caller ID on my landline. On the other hand, the number of times I call merchants approaches zero as I do most of my shopping online. The places I order delivery from wouldn't know CRM systems if they fell over one.